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$69K in Debt in NYC… Then Everything Changed
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Kim Hunter Borst and her husband, high earners living in New York City, share their counterintuitive journey to financial independence despite accumulating $69,000 in debt due to lifestyle inflation. Initially earning a combined $334,000 annually, they found themselves living paycheck-to-paycheck until a recession scare prompted a radical shift in their financial habits [01:07, 09:16]. This episode challenges the common belief that achieving FI is impossible in high-cost-of-living areas, demonstrating how intentional choices and leveraging local advantages can accelerate the path, even when starting later in life.
Their transformation began with a critical review of all expenses, leading to significant cuts in areas like dining out, unused groceries, and even switching cell phone providers from AT&T ($300/month for 3 people) to Cricket Wireless ($100/month for 5 people) [03:09]. A key enabler of their success was their rent-stabilized, two-bedroom apartment in Manhattan, which costs them $1,720 a month—roughly half the rent of similar units and a fraction of market rate [06:12, 13:20]. This dramatically reduced their largest expense, allowing them to funnel savings towards aggressive debt repayment and investments.
The couple involved their children in the financial overhaul, challenging them to minimize student loan debt with the promise of paying it off if they kept it under $24,000 [04:10]. By implementing these strategies, they paid off their $69,000 debt in just 18 months, exceeding their 2-year goal [05:11]. After becoming debt-free, they aggressively maxed out retirement accounts, building on Kim's existing $219,000 401k and her husband's $17,000 403b [09:16].
Kim highlights several often-overlooked advantages of pursuing FI in New York City, including affordable public transportation with commuter discounts, access to low-cost cultural experiences like Broadway tickets through theater clubs, and free museum access for residents [17:24, 18:26]. She also points to the vibrant local FI community, with hundreds of members participating in various meetups and groups [22:32]. Now retired and enjoying their "go-go years," they live comfortably on approximately $125,000 annually, with a baseline spend of $75,000 without extensive travel [19:27]. Listeners will learn practical strategies for debt elimination, aggressive saving, and how to harness unique urban opportunities to achieve financial independence, regardless of their city's cost of living.
👤 Who Should Listen
- High earners struggling with lifestyle creep and debt.
- Individuals living in or considering moving to high-cost-of-living cities like New York City.
- Blended families navigating joint finances and debt repayment.
- Parents seeking strategies to minimize their children's student loan debt.
- Anyone interested in the unique advantages and strategies for achieving financial independence in an urban environment.
- Women seeking financial education and community through groups like Women of FI.
🔑 Key Takeaways
- 1.High incomes do not prevent debt; Kim Hunter Borst and her husband earned $334,000 annually but accrued $69,000 in debt due to lifestyle inflation [09:16, 00:05].
- 2.A "recession proof" job is not a guarantee against financial instability; a scare about layoffs prompted Kim to critically assess their finances when they were living paycheck-to-paycheck [01:07].
- 3.Leveraging a rent-stabilized apartment in a high-cost city like New York City can drastically reduce housing expenses, as Kim's two-bedroom apartment costs $1,720/month compared to market rates of $3,500-$7,000 [06:12, 13:20, 22:32].
- 4.Aggressively cutting "wants wrapped in needs" like expensive cell phone plans (switching from AT&T at $300 for 3 to Cricket Wireless at $100 for 5) and unused services (cable, home phone) can free up significant cash [03:09].
- 5.Involving children in financial goals, such as challenging them to limit student loan debt under $24,000, can foster financial responsibility and lead to collective success [04:10].
- 6.Even starting later in life (Kim 48, husband 55 when they got serious), consistent debt repayment and investment can lead to early retirement, achieving financial independence in 18 months instead of the planned 2 years [08:15, 05:11].
- 7.High-cost-of-living cities offer unique advantages for FI, including affordable public transportation, discounted cultural events (e.g., Roundabout Theater Club for Broadway tickets), free museums for residents, and strong local FI communities [17:24, 18:26, 22:32].
- 8.Blending finances in a blended family can uncover significant redundant expenses, like having multiple credit cards from the same company, which can be eliminated to save money [05:11].
💡 Key Concepts Explained
Lifestyle Inflation
The tendency for spending to increase in proportion to one's income, often leading to debt despite high earnings. This episode highlights how Kim and her husband earning $334,000 still accumulated $69,000 in debt due to this phenomenon, demonstrating its power to derail financial goals [00:05, 09:16].
Rent Stabilization
A form of rent control that limits the amount and frequency landlords can increase rent for certain apartments, typically in buildings built prior to 1974 with six or more units, as regulated by the state. Kim's rent-stabilized apartment in New York City allowed her family to pay $1,720/month for a two-bedroom, significantly below market rates, and was a crucial factor in accelerating their FI journey [10:17, 13:20].
⚡ Actionable Takeaways
- →Review all current expenses to identify "wants wrapped in needs" and unnecessary spending, similar to how Kim cut cable, home phone, and an expensive cell plan [03:09].
- →Investigate local rent stabilization or rent control laws in your area, particularly for older buildings with multiple units, to identify potential housing cost savings [10:17, 14:23].
- →Involve family members, including children, in financial discussions and goal-setting to build collective buy-in and accelerate debt repayment or savings [02:08, 04:10].
- →Explore employer benefits and scholarships for college tuition to reduce reliance on student loans, as Kim's family did through her husband's employer and the organization SCOI [04:10].
- →Immediately funnel any money previously allocated to debt payments into retirement or investment accounts once debt is eliminated to rapidly build wealth [05:11].
- →Seek out and utilize local low-cost or free amenities, such as public transportation, cultural discounts (e.g., Roundabout Theater Club), and free museum access for residents [17:24, 18:26].
- →Connect with local financial independence groups or online communities to gain support, share strategies, and find accountability partners, like the NYC FI groups mentioned [22:32, 25:33].
⏱ Timeline Breakdown
💬 Notable Quotes
“"We recognized it was no longer recession proof. So, I was in the process of laying off half of my team when I thought, hey, I might be laid off as well. And if I were, what type of position would that put us in? And we were living at that time, not even paycheck to paycheck. It was the day before the next paycheck that we were going, 'Oh my gosh, we're we're in trouble.'" [01:07]”
“"We said to them, while we're digging out of debt, we don't expect you guys to go into an exorbitant amount of debt. We are challenging you to look at student loans as the last possible option. We found scholarships through this organization called SCOI. We also went to both of our employers and found out that his employer would pay a third of our kids' tuition." [04:10]”
“"Rent stabilization just means that they are not able to raise the rent as often and not as high as they would like annually. There are regulations in place that says all rent stabilized apartments will see a 2% increase this year or a 3% increase. And sometimes it's no increase at all, but that's regulated by the state." [11:18]”
“"Most people don't realize that. They think, 'Oh, I have to pay to go to the museums.' We don't. It's just afforded to us. And there's so many things that are happening here that are low cost or no cost. I can go out and eat dinner for as low as $8 in New York City or $200. It's up to me what I choose." [18:26]”
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